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Widow Joanna (___) Rose
And
Thomas Rose
of Norwich, Conn 

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The Widow Joanna (___) Rose
Thomas Rose
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The Immigrant

Widow Joanna Rose

There is little known about the Widow Rose. There is no evidence to show she was Eames, or Rathbone, or Ransford; all names speculated for her maiden name. Her origins and maiden name are unknown. The first name of her husband is also unknown, although since the name Thomas was repeated down into future generations, it might be Thomas. Neither is there any known relationship with Daniel Rose of Wethersfield, Conn or Robert Rose of Mass, or the Rose's of Long Island. It is possible she is an unrecorded daughter of another immigrant and married in America.

Savage's Dictionary of New England Settlers says, under Thomas Fleming:

"FLEMING, ROBERT, Stonington 1669, had grant of land 30 Sept, that year. and died before 1681, leaving widow Joanna and daughter Mary Rose, possibly other children."
Torrey's New England Marriages Before 1700 has:
"ROSE, [Thomas?] & Joanna __?__  ( --1693+), m/2 Robert FLEMMING by 1674, m/3 __?__ OLMSTEAD bef 1687; b=first born: 1659; ?CT

"FLEMMING, Robert ( --1681) & Joanna [ROSE], wid, m/3 OLMSTED bef 1687; b=first born: 8 Dec 1674; Stonington, CT

"OLMSTED, __?__ & Joanna (ROSE) [FLEMMING], w Robert; aft 18 Jul 1687; ? Stonington/Preston, CT"

History of the 1st Congregational Church Stonington, Connecticut, Pg 41:
"In 1668 a census of the inhabitants of the town was ordered to be taken, embracing those only who were inhabitants or heads of families. February 2. There were found to be forty-three inhabitants, viz.: ..... Robert Fleming"
Tidbits from above:
The "b 8 Dec 1674" entry under Flemming shows she may have had children with Robert Flemming and we may have some half-cousins in the Flemming family. This is because b usually means "date of first born" in Torrey.

Torrey apparently found some evidence of her being alive in 1693.

The Mary described in Savage is likely the Mary Rose who married Robert Parke. Her descendants are cousins to Princess Diana, as Princess Diana is a Parke descendant.


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